Subject:
Fluorescent Paint
Date:
Tue, 01 Apr 1997 08:08:16 -0800
From:
Death Lord
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I'm wanting to put up a sheet of
black plastic for an entrance way
to my
home haunt this year, like a "cave"
sort of entrance that causes the
treator to bend down. Above the
opening I want to scrawl something
in
fluorescent paint like ENTER AT
YOUR OWN RISK or something as such.
Cliff just brought up a good point
I haven't even considered as of
yet;
"plastic doesn't like paint". Does
anyone have the hot ticket for
getting the paint to stick well to
plastic sheeting?
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Subject:
Re: walls and lights
Date:
Tue, 01 Apr 1997 14:11:54 +0000
From:
Cliff Martin
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Greg Hope wrote:
>
>where did you find the screw-in
fluorescent blacklight bulbs? Are
they
like the standard white light fluo.
bulbs that have starters
incorporated
in the same unit? Are they large
(big circles), expensive (big $$$)?
Ive seen ads for circle blacklight
tubes (about 8" dia) that are the
'real' thing. They're identical to
the 'old' round flouresent
(kitchen)
ceiling lights in size and shape,
except for a screw in base, and
with a
starter/ballast. They look like
they would work well in a table
lamp.
If I remember correctly, (big IF)
they are 20 watt'ers.
I don't know about pricing, but
I'll look again.
Denny/John - do you guys carry
these?
And there's also the violet dyed
incandescent 'blacklight' bulbs
that
come in sizes from outdoor
christmas tree light size all the
way up to
100 watt floodlight sizes!
I was also talking (not too
clearly) about using standard
(white-ish)
screw-in flouresent bulb
replacments for floodlights. They
don't put
out nearly as much light, but they
sure run cooler!
Happyhaunting!
Cliff
cliff.martin@saralee.net
Subject:
Re: Flouscent Paint
Date:
Tue, 1 Apr 1997 12:15:04 -0500
From:
morgen4@villagenet.com
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>"plastic doesn't like paint". Does
anyone have the hot ticket for
>getting the paint to stick well to
plastic sheeting?
Try leaving the plasic out in the
sun for a week or so. It will break
down
the surface of the plastic and
allow the paint to stick. (Use the
side that
was facing the sun.)
CAUTION: If the plastic stays on
grass in the sun for more than
10-20
minutes, the grass is history! use
the deck.
Horror Harry
Subject:
Re: Fluorescent Paint
Date:
Tue, 01 Apr 1997 10:19:16 -0800
From:
allconen@btigate.com
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Death Lord wrote:
> Does anyone have the hot ticket
for
> getting the paint to stick well
to plastic sheeting?
> --
We didn't have any problem getting
fluorescent paint to stick to
plastic
sheeting when we used it in our
haunt last year. I would paint the
sheeting before I hung it, as the
paint will run (whether you spray
or
brush it on). The runs actually
added a cool effect, if that's what
you're looking for.
As an aside, we do not plan to use
plastic sheeting in our haunt this
year for safety reasons. We didn't
have much budget last year, but
we're
working hard to come up with an
alternative. The plastic sheeting
is too
flammable, melts into hot globs and
would create toxic fumes if it did
burn. We did treat it with a flame
retardant, but the retardant didn't
stick well and I'm not confident
this would have been much of a
deterrent
in a fire. We were strict about not
allowing any heat source inside the
haunt, but it's impossible to
completely control the behavior of
your
guests. Just throwing this out as
an important safety consideration.
Debbie
Subject:
Re: Flouscent Paint
Date:
Tue, 01 Apr 1997 12:37:52 -0600
From:
milwiron@btprod.com
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At 08:08 AM 4/1/97 -0800, you
wrote:
>I'm wanting to put up a sheet of
black plastic for an entrance way
to my
>home haunt this year, like a
"cave" sort of entrance that causes
the
>treator to bend down. Above the
opening I want to scrawl something
in
>fluorescent paint like ENTER AT
YOUR OWN RISK or something as such.
>Cliff just brought up a good point
I haven't even considered as of
yet;
>"plastic doesn't like paint". Does
anyone have the hot ticket for
>getting the paint to stick well to
plastic sheeting?
>--
Spray the sheet first with a light
coat of spray contact adhesive
where you
want your paint to stick, 3M #77 is
one type that works well .
Automotive paint dealers also sell
primers for poly plastics, the
primer
stays sticky so it'll stay on the
plastic... just like spray contact
cement.
For safety though, you shouldn't
use plastic sheeting in a public
haunt.
Denny
B.T. Productions' Terror By Design
Haunt Supplies & Scare Wares
Subject:
Re: Flouscent Paint
Date:
Mon, 31 Mar 1997 09:51:42 -0800
From:
Michael Marcrum
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Death Lord,
We made a cave one year of black
plastic. We painted it with the
flour. paint...you are right it
does not like to stay on!! Last
year, we
sprayed a little matte spray on the
area we wanted to paint. It did
work
a little bit better. If you want to
make a sign like that you might
want
to paint it on black cloth and just
attach it to the plastic!!
Kathy
the new kid on the crypt
mmarcrum@ix.netcom.com
Subject:
Re: walls and lights
Date:
Tue, 01 Apr 1997 16:12:08 -0800
From:
Iowa Chapman
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At 09:04 AM 4/1/97 -0800, you
wrote:
>>>>*please* dont use any exposed
flame or ANY heat source in the
haunt!
>
>Right on! If you're running
neighborhood kids (or worse, teens)
through the
>haunt, don't count on anyone
keeping hands to himself or staying
within
>boundaries.
>
>>I like low voltage outdoor
(landscape) lighting the best.
cheap, easy to
>>place, and easy to add color
filters to.
>
>I've fallen in love with these
landscape lights. They come with
black
>cases, choices in colored lenses
and they're CHEAP! Not long ago, my
local
>buildin mat. store put packs of
three on sale for $10. Also,
instead of
>shelling out apx. $40 for their
transformer, I dedicated an old
auto battery
>charger and now have a power
source for as many lights as I
need. (A 20amp
>charger will power 120 4watt
lamps)
>
>>There's also blacklight (i.e.
fluorescent(sp?)) and flour-scent
fixtures
>that fit in conventional light
sockets.
>
>Cliff, if you're reading this,
where did you find the screw-in
fluorescent
>blacklight bulbs? Are they like
the standard white light fluo.
bulbs that
>have starters incorporated in the
same unit? Are they large (big
circles),
>expensive (big $$$)? Personal: Got
your email, Cliff, and I'm working
on a
>substantial reply.
>
>Greg in Vista
>
>T (760) 945-4424
>F (760) 726-2804
>E ghope@mailhost1.csusm.edu
>
>
>
I tell ya folks if you need lots of
light with color, we have been
using
the flood lights colored red and or
blue, now to save money you can
actually get the white floods and
paint them with a good paint that
can
with stand heat. Red floods give a
great erie effect mixed with fog
...
Subject:
Re: Busts and Paintings lookinatcha.
Date:
Sun, 13 Apr 1997 22:35:17 -0400
From:
hauntedattr@pelican.net (Oliver
Holler)
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The following talks about Disney's
'Bust' and 'Gazing Portrait'
effect.
Perhaps I've missed some posts, but
the 'Bust' effect is a separate
'scare'
from the 'Paintings' effect.
At our Halloween haunt, we do the
inverted mask ('Bust') effect every
year.
We simply screw store bought, vacu-form
plastic masks to the wall (facing
the wall).
Granted, several things help:
They are especially deep masks with
ears.
We painted the insides with glow
paint, and black-lit them from the
front
instead of back lighting them.
The patron path of travel is past
them, as opposed to towards them.
The masks are out of arms reach.
We used several, in a totally black
room, insuring they get the
attention
they deserve.
And I'll be the first to say it's
the most
'inconsistent-to-the-theme'
thing we use, and the 'cheesiest'.
We all moan and laugh and giggle
when
we pull the cheap trashy things out
of the box every year.
Then we find ourselves converging
in the room upon its completion,
swaying
back and forth as the faces follow
us, even looking up and down at us!
And every year, patrons rave about
the 'holograms' in our 'incredible'
attraction.
'How in the WORLD do you do
that?!!!?', they repeatedly ask.
Lasers?
Projections?
-Never tell 'em. (Why disappoint
them?)
The eyes in the paintings work in a
similar 'self serve' fashion. The
eyes
are simply cut out and recessed.
Maybe a good 1/2 inch. That's all.
(Of course, lighting, and the paint
job affect it.)
(I've read there is a 'hidden
Mickey' as a pupil in one of the
eyes!)
I suggest the most sublime thing,
next to scaring someone, is fooling
them
with the most simple of tricks. ;-)
Hey, I'm curious. . .Has anyone
ever done the eyes-cut-out
paintings and
had staff look through them -and
get their eyes poked at by patrons?
Grim and Grinning,
Oliver
hauntedattr@pelican.net
http://www.pelican.net/hauntedmagazine
Subject:
Re: Busts and Paintings lookinatcha.
Date:
Mon, 14 Apr 1997 12:27:29 -0700
From:
Wil
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Oliver Holler wrote:
ew store bought, vacu-form plastic
masks to the wall (facing
> the wall).
> Granted, several things help:
> They are especially deep masks
with ears.
> We painted the insides with glow
paint, and black-lit them from the
front
> instead of back lighting them.
> The patron path of travel is past
them, as opposed to towards them.
> Grim and Grinning,
> Oliver
Can you offer a photo somewhere to
reference or more detailed
description of exactly how to paint
this to make this effect? I am
interested. Also, on the topic of
Disney's HH, does anyone know how
they
make the talking head work? I LOVE
that! Every year my family and I go
to Disney, we have to see the row
of talking heads. It looks like
maybe
they use the equivalent of like wig
forms, then project a hologram-ish
picture on it. Anyone?
Same thread--the crystal ball is
probably beyond anything possible
in a
home haunt, but that would be
awsome to duplicate also.
Wil
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Subject:
Re: Busts and Paintings lookinatcha.
Date:
Mon, 14 Apr 1997 12:45:08 -0700
(PDT)
From:
Don Bertino
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On Mon, 14 Apr 1997, Wil wrote:
> Can you offer a photo somewhere
to reference or more detailed
> description of exactly how to
paint this to make this effect? I
am
> interested. Also, on the topic of
Disney's HH, does anyone know how
they
> make the talking head work? I
LOVE that! Every year my family and
I go
> to Disney, we have to see the row
of talking heads. It looks like
maybe
> they use the equivalent of like
wig forms, then project a hologram-ish
> picture on it. Anyone?
Look in the archives for Scott's
post on this. He did a great effect
with
a singing band as I remember.
Disney uses a video projector and a
laser disc now.
> Same thread--the crystal ball is
probably beyond anything possible
in a
> home haunt, but that would be
awsome to duplicate also.
The only difference is it is
transfered thru fiber optics, so
the table can
wobble.
BTW, check out the Haunted Mansion
FAQ for more info...
http://www.calweb.com/~bertino/disney.html
don
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