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Subject:
Hall: Re: Talking Boris
Date:
Sat, 15 Sep 2001 10:58:43 -0500
From:
"Karon E Knoth"
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I bought one of these. I wanted to get it to sing, but it just kept its
mouth open most of the time. What am I doing wrong?

Karon




Subject:
Re: Hall: Re: Talking Boris
Date:
Sat, 15 Sep 2001 11:17:30 -0700
From:
Wil
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Perhaps the volume going in is a little high.

the Death Lord

"webmaster@ScreamsPark.com" wrote:
 
 At 10:58 AM 9/15/01 -0500, you wrote:
 >I bought one of these. I wanted to get it to sing, but it just kept
its
 >mouth open most of the time. What am I doing wrong?
 >
 >Karon




Subject:
Re: Hall: Re: Talking Boris
Date:
Sat, 15 Sep 2001 11:30:39 -0500
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At 10:58 AM 9/15/01 -0500, you wrote:
>I bought one of these. I wanted to get it to sing, but it just kept its
>mouth open most of the time. What am I doing wrong?
>
>Karon

There is probably a spring unhooked.... or your gave the mic to a teenage
girl. B-)

Later,
David Buckert
webmaster@ScreamsPark.com


 Subject:
Hall: Talking Boris
Date:
Fri, 14 Sep 2001 21:12:25 -0500
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"webmaster@ScreamsPark.com"
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I think I might be losing it. Doesn't the Talking Boris normally sell for
$49???? I was at Target tonight and they had 5 of them clearly marked
$19.95. I've already got 2 of them, but at that price I might need 1....
or 2 more. B-)

Seriously, am I losing my mind or is that just a great deal?

THANKS,
David Buckert
webmaster@ScreamsPark.com


 
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I saw some talking borises at target for about 19.99, are they worth it? I
hid a few behind larger more expensive items hoping they'll get marked down
at the end of the season.
--
FX - Terror@DarkDragon.com


 


If there's music with it, the mouth responds and pretty much stays open..
Also, if you talk too fast, it'll do the same thing..what you need is a
little space between words..test it on your radio with a commercial or
talk radio show..if it still doesn't work, try moving the mike back a
little from the speaker..if it still doesn't work, hit it with a sledgehammer
and add it to your graveyard scene.

Cheryl

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Subject:
Re: Hall: Re: Talking Boris
Date:
Sun, 16 Sep 2001 20:14:15 -0700
From:
Sue McDonald
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When you are one of the three stooges, this is what your instructions
will look like...lol
A 4-7-4 resistor (for me I have to have color...gold, yellow, purple)
soldered between the input and the board. My electronic geniuses
soldered it right before the connection. The resistor they used for
mine may be different because they were using a cheapo Memorex CD
player. The input from the computer in the shop totally overpowered the
borises. They went thru several different resistors until they found
this one which seemed to be the right one. Just for you, Eric, I will
have a picture of this posted on a web page. I will let you know as
soon as it is up, er..I mean posted.

Sue

"Eric L. Sturgis" wrote:
>
> Hi Sue. Do you have details on how to do this? Maybe a drawing or a pic of
> where to add the resistors? What part #? Any help would be great.
> Thanks
> Eric
>Subject:
Re: Hall: Re: Talking Boris
Date:
Mon, 17 Sep 2001 07:55:07 -0700
From:
Wil
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Sue,

this is of great interest to me as well. Please post this for all of
us to take a look at! Thanks for your great help.

the Death Lord



Sue McDonald wrote:
>
> When you are one of the three stooges, this is what your instructions
> will look like...lol
> A 4-7-4 resistor (for me I have to have color...gold, yellow, purple)
> soldered between the input and the board. My electronic geniuses
> soldered it right before the connection. The resistor they used for
> mine may be different because they were using a cheapo Memorex CD
> player. The input from the computer in the shop totally overpowered the
> borises. They went thru several different resistors until they found
> this one which seemed to be the right one. Just for you, Eric, I will
> have a picture of this posted on a web page. I will let you know as
> soon as it is up, er..I mean posted.
>
> SueSubject:
Re: Hall: Re: Talking Boris
Date:
Mon, 17 Sep 2001 10:58:45 -0700
From:
Wil
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HELL -o- Sue,

I went to Radio Shark today and using their Johny Blast Off Decoder
Ring we decifered the GOLD YELLOW PURPLE description of the resistor. At
least I think perhaps it was decoded to a 7.4 ohm. In which case, the
smallest resistor they had was 10 ohm. Is there any way you can verify
this and also can you respond to whether you feel the 10 ohm would
suffice or not? Thanks again. And if it won't work, why not? What will
the down side be? Also, are you coming out of the player into the boris
head directly off of the speaker line or the much lower signal of the
"line out"?

the Death Lord Subject:
Re: Hall: Re: Talking Boris
Date:
Mon, 17 Sep 2001 11:25:31 -0700
From:
"Carl Cowley" <1ccowley@home.com>
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Wil,

Since she mentioned a 4-7-4 resistor, that to me would be a 470K Ohm
resistor. The color code on that would Yellow-Violet (Purple)-Yellow-Gold,
where gold just means it has a 5% tolerance. That value seems much more
consistant with what is trying to be done also. You probable also want a
capacitor, some like a .1uF or .01uF in series with the resistor to block
any d.c. current that is being sent out to where the electric condenser
microphone used to connect. That will protect your stereo from getting d.c.
current. I would use a line out connection instead of a speaker connection,
since the boris has a built in amplifier and the input from the microphone
is really small. the 470K Ohm resistor would also provide a better
impedance match for a line out connection.

At least that's my take on the whole thing, not that you were asking me :-)

Carl Cowley
1ccowley@home.com
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Re: Hall: Re: Talking Boris
Date:
Mon, 17 Sep 2001 13:30:34 -0700
From:
Wil
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Thanks Carl,

I am wondering if that is what Sue wound up finding out worked for
hers too. I don't think the help I had at Radio Shark was too informed
:~> this morning. I appreciate the info. As soon as I find out what she
was doing with her line-in I can make another trip to the Shark to get
the 470K ohm.

the Death Lord

Carl Cowley wrote:
>
> Wil,
>
> Since she mentioned a 4-7-4 resistor, that to me would be a 470K Ohm
> resistor. The color code on that would Yellow-Violet (Purple)-Yellow-Gold,
> where gold just means it has a 5% tolerance. That value seems much more
> consistant with what is trying to be done also. You probable also want a
> capacitor, some like a .1uF or .01uF in series with the resistor to block
> any d.c. current that is being sent out to where the electric condenser
> microphone used to connect. That will protect your stereo from getting d.c.
> current. I would use a line out connection instead of a speaker connection,
> since the boris has a built in amplifier and the input from the microphone
> is really small. the 470K Ohm resistor would also provide a better
> impedance match for a line out connection.
>
> At least that's my take on the whole thing, not that you were asking me :-)
>
> Carl Cowley
> 1ccowley@home.com
> www.cowlacious.comSubject:
Hall: Resisting the Talking Boris
Date:
Sun, 16 Sep 2001 09:47:09 -0700
From:
Sue McDonald
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I will be getting the information from my electronics staff for you (geez that
makes me sound important doesn't it?) and post it. Actually, my hubby and his
kid (39 year old) install the resistor to make it work more efficiently and when
the kid gets up from his escapades from last night, I will get it.

"Eric L. Sturgis" wrote:

> Hi Sue. Do you have details on how to do this? Maybe a drawing or a pic of
> where to add the resistors? What part #? Any help would be great.
> Thanks
> Eric




Subject:
Re: Hall: Re: Talking Boris
Date:
Mon, 17 Sep 2001 18:22:51 -0700
From:
Sue McDonald
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After you have removed the cover and the black plastic that holds the
batteries, you will be able to see the circuit board. The red line
coming in from the micro-'bone' is where we put the resistor. It is
soldered with the gold band to the input from the microphone and the
purple to the circuit board side. This is all done before it gets to
the solder point on the circuit board where you can read "mic". As you
can tell, I am not an electrical or electronics person. I fall under
that category that Elvira in her movie so eloquently said...I am one of
those people who just grab a tool and start banging." I do know that
this resistor was used solely for the cheapo CD player that I got for
this purpose and each input device you used may differ in the resistor
you need to use on them. I plan to keep the band together for several
years and will keep the CD player with them when I store it. Next year
they are going to do, I put a spell on you.

Sue

Wil wrote:
>
> HELL -o- Sue,
>
> I went to Radio Shark today and using their Johny Blast Off Decoder
> Ring we decifered the GOLD YELLOW PURPLE description of the resistor. At
> least I think perhaps it was decoded to a 7.4 ohm. In which case, the
> smallest resistor they had was 10 ohm. Is there any way you can verify
> this and also can you respond to whether you feel the 10 ohm would
> suffice or not? Thanks again. And if it won't work, why not? What will
> the down side be? Also, are you coming out of the player into the boris
> head directly off of the speaker line or the much lower signal of the
> "line out"?
>
> the Death Lord
>
> Sue McDonald wrote:
> >
> > When you are one of the three stooges, this is what your instructions
> > will look like...lol
> > A 4-7-4 resistor (for me I have to have color...gold, yellow, purple)
> > soldered between the input and the board. My electronic geniuses
> > soldered it right before the connection. The resistor they used for
> > mine may be different because they were using a cheapo Memorex CD
> > player. The input from the computer in the shop totally overpowered the
> > borises. They went thru several different resistors until they found
> > this one which seemed to be the right one. Just for you, Eric, I will
> > have a picture of this posted on a web page. I will let you know as
> > soon as it is up, er..I mean posted.
> >
> > Sue
> >
> > "Eric L. Sturgis" wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Sue. Do you have details on how to do this? Maybe a drawing or a pic of
> > > where to add the resistors? What part #? Any help would be great.
> > > Thanks
> > > EricSubject:
Re: Hall: Re: Talking Boris
Date:
Mon, 17 Sep 2001 18:26:14 -0700
From:
Sue McDonald
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>From the mouths of the expert to your ears Wil.....

Carl Cowley wrote:
>
> Wil,
>
> Since she mentioned a 4-7-4 resistor, that to me would be a 470K Ohm
> resistor. The color code on that would Yellow-Violet (Purple)-Yellow-Gold,
> where gold just means it has a 5% tolerance. That value seems much more
> consistant with what is trying to be done also. You probable also want a
> capacitor, some like a .1uF or .01uF in series with the resistor to block
> any d.c. current that is being sent out to where the electric condenser
> microphone used to connect. That will protect your stereo from getting d.c.
> current. I would use a line out connection instead of a speaker connection,
> since the boris has a built in amplifier and the input from the microphone
> is really small. the 470K Ohm resistor would also provide a better
> impedance match for a line out connection.
>
> At least that's my take on the whole thing, not that you were asking me :-)
>
> Carl Cowley
> 1ccowley@home.com
> www.cowlacious.com
Subject:
Re: Hall: Re: Talking Boris
Date:
Mon, 17 Sep 2001 18:24:55 -0700
From:
Sue McDonald
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This piece of crap CD player has only the speaker out jack so that is
the one I have to use. I hope this helps a little and if you could
spare your handy dandy decoder ring for the permanently impaired...I
could definitely use it.

Wil wrote:
>
> HELL -o- Sue,
>
Also, are you coming out of the player into the boris head directly off
of the speaker line or the much lower signal of the "line out"?
>
> the Death Lord

ed help!
Date:
Mon, 24 Sep 2001 16:11:37 -0500
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> JK..okay, I popped out all but the front bottom teeth, no
> problem..now I wonder if one of you electronic types could tell
> me, can I hook up the single wire from the microbone to the
> double wire from the stereo headset of my walkman? I just want
> to be able to put in a tape and have the jaw and LED eyes still
> work..help!

Okay, you'll need a little bit of electronics for this... but it's pretty
easy.

From walkman To Boris
470k
L ----\/\/\/\----------+ 0.1uf
|
| ||
center wire +------||----------- center wire
| ||
|
R ----\/\/\/\----------+
470k

=============== shield

This should work pretty well. The resistors will drop the stereo voltage
down to the level that the microphone expects. The capacitor blocks the DC
voltage that the Boris uses to power the microphone.

An electrolytic cap could be used; if so, make sur ethat the (+) side is
facing Boris.


 
Subject:
Hall: Re: Howl - Talking Boris ? Bob Withoff ?
Date:
Tue, 02 Oct 2001 10:22:06 -0700
From:
Wil
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Gosh, that was as clear as mud. let me re-do the drawing. I am
suggesting to use the single 470 k ohm on the shield wire of the boris
only and come into him with the speaker line. I have purchased the .1uf
capacitor at Radial Shark today. I take it I need to put that on before
my speaker sound goes into the 470 k ohm?

 

Wil wrote:
>
> Hi Bob,
>
> Thanks for the info. I am hooking up my Boris now. Can you tell me
> what the .1uf is?
>
> Also, will this work?:
>
> boris shield
 ----------\/470 k ohm\/\/------||---||-----------------
|| ||
|| || left speaker out of box
boris center || ||
 -------------------------------||---||---------------
>
> X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X
> Rest In Pieces
> the Death Lord
> http://www.deathlord.net
> X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X
>
> Date:
> Mon, 24 Sep 2001 16:11:37 -0500
> From:
> "Rob Withoff"
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> To:
> chatlist
>
> > JK..okay, I popped out all but the front bottom teeth, no
> > problem..now I wonder if one of you electronic types could tell
> > me, can I hook up the single wire from the microbone to the
> > double wire from the stereo headset of my walkman? I just want
> > to be able to put in a tape and have the jaw and LED eyes still
> > work..help!
>
> Okay, you'll need a little bit of electronics for this... but it's
> pretty
> easy.
>
> From walkman To Boris
> 470k
> L ----\/\/\/\----------+ 0.1uf
> |
> | ||
> center wire +------||----------- center wire
> | ||
> |
> R ----\/\/\/\----------+
> 470k
> shield
>
> This should work pretty well. The resistors will drop the stereo voltage
> down to the level that the microphone expects. The capacitor blocks the
> DC
> voltage that the Boris uses to power the microphone.
>
> An electrolytic cap could be used; if so, make sur ethat the (+) side is
> facing Boris.
>

Subject:
RE: Hall: Talking Boris ? Bob Withoff ?
Date:
Wed, 3 Oct 2001 00:10:30 -0500
From:
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> Thanks for the info. I am hooking up my Boris now. Can you tell me
> what the .1uf is?

The .1uf is a capacitor, they are available easily at Radio Sh*ck. You can
also use larger values, but I wouldn't go smaller.


> Also, will this work?:
>
> boris shield
> ----------\/470 k
ohm\/\/------||---||---------------------------------------
> || ||
> || || boom box headphones out left
> speaker only (right to speaker)
> boris center || ||
> -------------------------------||---||----------------------------

Not well. This will end up driving the Boris with the difference of the two
channels; since most vocals are recorded in the center, they will go away,
and your Boris will move it's jaw to some of the music, but not the vocals.

Also, you need the capacitor to block the DC voltage coming from the Boris,
or risk frying your boom box.


 Subject:
Re: Hall: Talking Boris ? Bob Withoff ?
Date:
Wed, 03 Oct 2001 13:51:59 -0700
From:
Wil
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Hi Bob,

Thank you for all your input Bob. I am really interested in coming off
my stereo with just one line as I mentioned before and found that the
only thing that would work was the 10 ohm resistor. I used the .1 uf
capacitor also as you recommended. It works good this way using speaker
adjustment to fine tune it. I am sure the system you recommended would
work if set up for stereo, its just that I am not able to do that. Too
bad it only took me two days and repeated trips to Radio Shark. Thanks
again.

This worked;

boris center
--\/\10 ohm\/\---\/\.1uf\/\--||---||--------------------
|| || boom box phones out
|| || left speaker only
boris shield || ||
-----------------------------||---||---------------------

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Rob Withoff wrote:
>
> > Thanks for the info. I am hooking up my Boris now. Can you tell me
> > what the .1uf is?
>
> The .1uf is a capacitor, they are available easily at Radio Sh*ck. You can
> also use larger values, but I wouldn't go smaller.
>
> > Also, will this work?:
> >
> > boris shield
> > ----------\/470 k ohm\/\/------||---||---------------------------------------
> > || ||
> > || || boom box headphones out left
> > speaker only (right to speaker)
> > boris center || ||
> > -------------------------------||---||----------------------------
>
> Not well. This will end up driving the Boris with the difference of the two
> channels; since most vocals are recorded in the center, they will go away,
> and your Boris will move it's jaw to some of the music, but not the vocals.
>
> Also, you need the capacitor to block the DC voltage coming from the Boris,
> or risk frying your boom box.
> Subject:
RE: Hall: Talking Boris ? Bob Withoff ?
Date:
Wed, 3 Oct 2001 14:04:19 -0700
From:
"Urquidez, Geraldine"
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please unsubscribe me. Thanks

Geri


-----Original Message-----
From: Wil [mailto:wil@wilschock.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 1:52 PM
To: chatlist
Subject: Re: Hall: Talking Boris ? Bob Withoff ?


Hi Bob,

Thank you for all your input Bob. I am really interested in coming off
my stereo with just one line as I mentioned before and found that the
only thing that would work was the 10 ohm resistor. I used the .1 uf
capacitor also as you recommended. It works good this way using speaker
adjustment to fine tune it. I am sure the system you recommended would
work if set up for stereo, its just that I am not able to do that. Too
bad it only took me two days and repeated trips to Radio Shark. Thanks
again.

This worked;

boris center
--\/\10 ohm\/\---\/\.1uf\/\--||---||--------------------
|| || boom box phones out
|| || left speaker only
boris shield || ||
-----------------------------||---||---------------------

X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X
Rest In Pieces
the Death Lord
http://www.deathlord.net
X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X



Rob Withoff wrote:
>
> > Thanks for the info. I am hooking up my Boris now. Can you tell me
> > what the .1uf is?
>
> The .1uf is a capacitor, they are available easily at Radio Sh*ck. You can
> also use larger values, but I wouldn't go smaller.
>
> > Also, will this work?:
> >
> > boris shield
> > ----------\/470 k
ohm\/\/------||---||---------------------------------------
> > || ||
> > || || boom box headphones out left
> > speaker only (right to speaker)
> > boris center || ||
> > -------------------------------||---||----------------------------
>
> Not well. This will end up driving the Boris with the difference of the
two
> channels; since most vocals are recorded in the center, they will go away,
> and your Boris will move it's jaw to some of the music, but not the
vocals.
>
> Also, you need the capacitor to block the DC voltage coming from the
Boris,
> or risk frying your boom box.
ubject:
RE: Hall: Talking Boris ? Bob Withoff ?
Date:
Thu, 4 Oct 2001 07:04:35 -0500
From:
"Rob Withoff"
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> Rob,
>
> Now I have decided I would like to use a head along with a voice
> recorder,
> motion activated speaker doohickey I bought from Denny a few
> years ago. When I
> line out of it (come off of each side of the speaker connections) into the
> head, it overdrives the head and unfortunately it is not adjustable for
> volume. Is this where I would use the 470 K ohm?

Yes, though you should probably try different values. If you pick up one of
thgose bags of resistors with a bunch of different values, you can
experiment.

I have a feeling that Boris has different input impedances depending on what
they could get...

The other thing would be to use a potentiometer (volume control). That would
give you the most control, and be quick.

Crude drawing:

Potentiometer (1k ohm)
--
---[speaker +]---------0==/ \
+--0=| |
---[speaker -]--+---|--0==\ /
| | -- Capacitor (try 4.7uF)
| |
| | || +
| +-------------||----------> Boris center
| ||
|
+-----------------------------> Boris shield

This is probably the best way. The value of the capacitor depends on whether
or not your source material going in has a lot of heavy bass. If it's mostly
speech, you should be fine. If it's mixed with music, you'll have to play
with the values to see what works.

Subject:
Re: Hall: Talking Boris ? Bob Withoff ?
Date:
Tue, 09 Oct 2001 11:10:44 -0700
From:
Wil
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Hi Rob!

This worked! I used a 2K Ohm potentiometer and a .1 UF capacitor and
it worked like a charm for my little sound recorder / playback device. I
wired directly off the speaker legs and lined in to the back of boris's
head with a 1/8" phone plug. Thank you very much for all your help.

X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X
Rest In Pieces
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http://www.deathlord.net
X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X

Rob Withoff wrote:
>
> > Rob,
> >
> > Now I have decided I would like to use a head along with a voice
> > recorder,
> > motion activated speaker doohickey I bought from Denny a few
> > years ago. When I
> > line out of it (come off of each side of the speaker connections) into the
> > head, it overdrives the head and unfortunately it is not adjustable for
> > volume. Is this where I would use the 470 K ohm?
>
> Yes, though you should probably try different values. If you pick up one of
> thgose bags of resistors with a bunch of different values, you can
> experiment.
>
> I have a feeling that Boris has different input impedances depending on what
> they could get...
>
> The other thing would be to use a potentiometer (volume control). That would
> give you the most control, and be quick.
>
> Crude drawing:
>
> Potentiometer (1k ohm)
> --
> ---[speaker +]---------0==/ \
> +--0=| |
> ---[speaker -]--+---|--0==\ /
> | | -- Capacitor (try 4.7uF)
> | |
> | | || +
> | +-------------||----------> Boris center
> | ||
> |
> +-----------------------------> Boris shield
>
> This is probably the best way. The value of the capacitor depends on whether
> or not your source material going in has a lot of heavy bass. If it's mostly
> speech, you should be fine. If it's mixed with music, you'll have to play
> with the values to see what works.